1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:43,750 today 2 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:54,069 all right 3 00:00:59,810 --> 00:00:57,170 there was a disc out there flying around 4 00:01:01,729 --> 00:00:59,820 the what a disc a disc yeah can you hang 5 00:01:03,830 --> 00:01:01,739 on one second 6 00:01:05,810 --> 00:01:03,840 okay I'm sorry what uh what can I do for 7 00:01:07,490 --> 00:01:05,820 you now oh yeah all right there I told 8 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:07,500 Dave there was a disc flying outside 9 00:01:13,070 --> 00:01:09,840 above Charlie 17 and he thought it was 10 00:01:15,530 --> 00:01:13,080 pretty much High but um I'm not high 11 00:01:17,330 --> 00:01:15,540 enough not drinking yeah the picture of 12 00:01:20,270 --> 00:01:17,340 it so if you guys see it out there a 13 00:01:35,870 --> 00:01:20,280 disc like a frisbee like a UFO type of 14 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:41,350 this is Dave okay guys 15 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:58,929 some of our employees not enough 16 00:02:04,130 --> 00:02:02,870 okay but I mean and this is Chicago I've 17 00:02:07,069 --> 00:02:04,140 been lucky but we have not seen anything 18 00:02:10,190 --> 00:02:07,079 okay you know I mean uh 19 00:02:13,790 --> 00:02:10,200 if we do oh well no I'm just wondering 20 00:02:16,190 --> 00:02:13,800 maybe we'll have to give him uh 21 00:02:18,610 --> 00:02:16,200 yeah yeah I know either that or you need 22 00:02:20,869 --> 00:02:18,620 all the brand new aircraft 23 00:02:21,650 --> 00:02:20,879 but uh no we have not seen anything but 24 00:02:22,729 --> 00:02:21,660 we 25 00:02:28,450 --> 00:02:22,739 will keep an eye out that's for sure 26 00:02:28,460 --> 00:02:47,449 [Applause] 27 00:02:57,550 --> 00:02:49,130 um 28 00:03:00,830 --> 00:02:59,750 yeah look out your window I didn't see 29 00:03:02,330 --> 00:03:00,840 it you see anything above the United 30 00:03:04,610 --> 00:03:02,340 States they actually believe it or not 31 00:03:06,170 --> 00:03:04,620 they call us that they somebody observed 32 00:03:07,490 --> 00:03:06,180 a flying disc about a thousand feet 33 00:03:09,410 --> 00:03:07,500 above the uh 34 00:03:13,089 --> 00:03:09,420 hey Charlie 17. you see anything over 35 00:03:13,099 --> 00:03:17,750 okay yeah I thought my job was stressful 36 00:03:22,030 --> 00:03:20,270 oh we saw it a half hour ago 37 00:03:24,369 --> 00:03:22,040 suicide 38 00:03:32,149 --> 00:03:24,379 over the uh 39 00:03:37,369 --> 00:03:34,850 it was definitely not my imagination Joe 40 00:03:40,009 --> 00:03:37,379 was a mechanic for United Airlines while 41 00:03:41,630 --> 00:03:40,019 taxing a jumbo jet to the hangar he and 42 00:03:44,030 --> 00:03:41,640 another mechanic looked out the window 43 00:03:47,449 --> 00:03:44,040 in the general direction and noticed an 44 00:03:49,789 --> 00:03:47,459 object up in the sky 45 00:03:52,190 --> 00:03:49,799 um dark gray objects sitting above the 46 00:03:53,750 --> 00:03:52,200 terminal complex Joe which is not his 47 00:03:55,910 --> 00:03:53,760 real name is one of several airport 48 00:03:57,890 --> 00:03:55,920 workers some when we've talked to the 49 00:04:00,710 --> 00:03:57,900 Chicago Tribune who said they saw a 50 00:04:02,869 --> 00:04:00,720 saucer-shaped UFO hovering just beneath 51 00:04:04,610 --> 00:04:02,879 the clouds at the airport he's the first 52 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:04,620 to go on camera to talk about it since 53 00:04:08,630 --> 00:04:06,720 this happened several weeks ago he wants 54 00:04:10,610 --> 00:04:08,640 to remain anonymous but you're sure it 55 00:04:12,410 --> 00:04:10,620 was some kind of object that normally 56 00:04:15,410 --> 00:04:12,420 would not be above O'Hare Airport I've 57 00:04:17,270 --> 00:04:15,420 been at O'Hare for quite some time and 58 00:04:19,610 --> 00:04:17,280 let's just say that I have never seen an 59 00:04:22,069 --> 00:04:19,620 object in my tire that looked like this 60 00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:22,079 and I'll tell you definitely it was not 61 00:04:25,670 --> 00:04:24,240 an airplane as we know it it could be an 62 00:04:28,430 --> 00:04:25,680 airplane as another world knows it 63 00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:28,440 possibly we brought in one of Chicago's 64 00:04:33,230 --> 00:04:30,960 top sketch artists followed the Contours 65 00:04:34,670 --> 00:04:33,240 of of the object so listen to Joe and 66 00:04:37,730 --> 00:04:34,680 draw a picture of what he says he saw 67 00:04:39,710 --> 00:04:37,740 more like an oval dark gray oval because 68 00:04:41,450 --> 00:04:39,720 no photos have surfaced and Joe doesn't 69 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:41,460 know of any now it didn't say Goodyear 70 00:04:45,830 --> 00:04:44,400 on it did it no Goodyear no that's a 71 00:04:47,930 --> 00:04:45,840 really good drawing is that what it 72 00:04:49,610 --> 00:04:47,940 looks like very much so yeah other 73 00:04:51,890 --> 00:04:49,620 Witnesses told an organization called 74 00:04:53,689 --> 00:04:51,900 the National UFO Reporting Center that 75 00:04:55,790 --> 00:04:53,699 the object eventually shot straight up 76 00:04:57,530 --> 00:04:55,800 in the sky at a great rate of speed it 77 00:04:59,150 --> 00:04:57,540 looked like literally someone had poked 78 00:05:01,129 --> 00:04:59,160 a hole in the clouds 79 00:05:03,950 --> 00:05:01,139 it's the round hole Joe thinks the disc 80 00:05:06,890 --> 00:05:03,960 is either a stealthy military project or 81 00:05:08,870 --> 00:05:06,900 a spacecraft from another planet but I 82 00:05:11,409 --> 00:05:08,880 find it very strange or very peculiar 83 00:05:14,810 --> 00:05:11,419 that somebody who possesses a technology 84 00:05:21,890 --> 00:05:14,820 to travel between Star systems would sit 85 00:05:26,749 --> 00:05:24,170 well fine thanks how are you 86 00:05:29,510 --> 00:05:26,759 this is your host oh my god did you see 87 00:05:30,890 --> 00:05:29,520 it hit the fox crawl Monday night did it 88 00:05:34,370 --> 00:05:30,900 it's just been everywhere I mean I've 89 00:05:38,029 --> 00:05:34,380 been on CNN my fourth appearance today 90 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:38,039 really every MSNBC every Network oh my 91 00:05:44,090 --> 00:05:40,320 goodness they're just worldwide I mean 92 00:05:45,890 --> 00:05:44,100 yeah Australia everywhere 93 00:05:48,409 --> 00:05:45,900 that's what we're going to start off I'm 94 00:05:52,370 --> 00:05:48,419 going to say and John the response has 95 00:05:54,409 --> 00:05:52,380 been well out of this world hasn't it 96 00:05:56,290 --> 00:05:54,419 congratulations that's so where's the 97 00:05:59,570 --> 00:05:56,300 latest on the investigation the FAA then 98 00:06:01,430 --> 00:05:59,580 well uh by this time tomorrow going to 99 00:06:03,110 --> 00:06:01,440 approval yeah United United is now 100 00:06:05,090 --> 00:06:03,120 acknowledging that they were approached 101 00:06:08,749 --> 00:06:05,100 by employees so they've done that 102 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:08,759 flip-flop and I'm trying to locate 103 00:06:12,010 --> 00:06:10,380 photos of this I'm told there may be 104 00:06:15,290 --> 00:06:12,020 photos really 105 00:06:16,610 --> 00:06:15,300 wow that would be cool so is the 106 00:06:18,230 --> 00:06:16,620 possible does it possibility exist you 107 00:06:20,689 --> 00:06:18,240 might get the pictures and get them in 108 00:06:23,210 --> 00:06:20,699 for tomorrow or oh no I I don't think no 109 00:06:24,950 --> 00:06:23,220 no no no no I mean I I'm told the pilots 110 00:06:27,050 --> 00:06:24,960 on that plane that was being pushed back 111 00:06:28,430 --> 00:06:27,060 uh you know I said in the story that 112 00:06:30,830 --> 00:06:28,440 they opened the windscreen and stuck 113 00:06:32,210 --> 00:06:30,840 their head out now I'm being told that 114 00:06:34,909 --> 00:06:32,220 one of them had a digital camera and 115 00:06:37,969 --> 00:06:34,919 snapped some pictures wow so United is 116 00:06:40,550 --> 00:06:37,979 not playing ball with me and uh 117 00:06:42,290 --> 00:06:40,560 FAA have expanded my foia to include the 118 00:06:44,029 --> 00:06:42,300 flight plan which might include the 119 00:06:45,770 --> 00:06:44,039 pilots names 120 00:06:47,450 --> 00:06:45,780 and I'm trying to work with the Union as 121 00:06:48,790 --> 00:06:47,460 well are they still going by weather 122 00:06:51,650 --> 00:06:48,800 phenomenon 123 00:06:53,809 --> 00:06:51,660 uh fa you know pretty much because of 124 00:06:55,550 --> 00:06:53,819 the federal holiday I I haven't talked 125 00:06:58,010 --> 00:06:55,560 to them that much but yeah they haven't 126 00:07:00,290 --> 00:06:58,020 changed their story and it's I've just 127 00:07:01,550 --> 00:07:00,300 heard apart from other people you know 128 00:07:04,189 --> 00:07:01,560 since then that you know that that's 129 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:04,199 that explanation just doesn't wash and 130 00:07:09,170 --> 00:07:06,960 they haven't gone out of their way to to 131 00:07:10,850 --> 00:07:09,180 say anything otherwise so far no I mean 132 00:07:12,890 --> 00:07:10,860 they say you know it was it was November 133 00:07:16,070 --> 00:07:12,900 7th they're they're moving on they're 134 00:07:20,689 --> 00:07:18,469 well I tell you what the uh all the 135 00:07:22,490 --> 00:07:20,699 people who saw it must be feeling a 136 00:07:23,930 --> 00:07:22,500 little validated right about now huh oh 137 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:23,940 yeah and I'm getting tons of emails from 138 00:07:28,129 --> 00:07:25,680 other people who outside the airport as 139 00:07:29,029 --> 00:07:28,139 well as Ed O'Hare who also either cited 140 00:07:31,129 --> 00:07:29,039 that 141 00:07:34,430 --> 00:07:31,139 same object or saw the hole in the sky 142 00:07:36,110 --> 00:07:34,440 and said what is that wow okay so what 143 00:07:39,010 --> 00:07:36,120 did it look like again to the folks who 144 00:07:41,450 --> 00:07:39,020 saw it it was a saucer like yeah 145 00:07:44,570 --> 00:07:41,460 ignited terminal right yeah right over 146 00:07:48,529 --> 00:07:44,580 directly over gate c17 it was stationary 147 00:07:51,830 --> 00:07:48,539 in the sky uh dark gray metallic uh you 148 00:07:53,809 --> 00:07:51,840 know like I say saucer shaped no lights 149 00:07:56,510 --> 00:07:53,819 and it was there for some minutes and 150 00:07:58,070 --> 00:07:56,520 then when it disappeared it just 151 00:08:01,850 --> 00:07:58,080 streaked through the clouds with such 152 00:08:03,230 --> 00:08:01,860 energy that it broke a big a blue hole 153 00:08:04,909 --> 00:08:03,240 in the overcast 154 00:08:07,430 --> 00:08:04,919 and the hole remained there for several 155 00:08:09,350 --> 00:08:07,440 minutes until the wind uh drifted and 156 00:08:12,050 --> 00:08:09,360 pushed the clouds back together 157 00:08:14,450 --> 00:08:12,060 so the blue was the sky yeah the blue 158 00:08:16,730 --> 00:08:14,460 was the sky but but otherwise the entire 159 00:08:19,249 --> 00:08:16,740 Skyline was uh was cloudy totally 160 00:08:20,629 --> 00:08:19,259 overcast huh man so you know it's 161 00:08:23,330 --> 00:08:20,639 nothing an airplane just doesn't react 162 00:08:27,469 --> 00:08:23,340 like that it slices through and it 163 00:08:31,630 --> 00:08:29,869 hmm 164 00:08:33,889 --> 00:08:31,640 oh man 165 00:08:36,110 --> 00:08:33,899 I am so sorry to keep you guys winning 166 00:08:37,610 --> 00:08:36,120 our EP is requesting all these different 167 00:08:39,649 --> 00:08:37,620 Graphics do you have any other 168 00:08:41,810 --> 00:08:39,659 interviews set up after this John yeah 169 00:08:43,550 --> 00:08:41,820 I'm going back on 170 00:08:45,949 --> 00:08:43,560 a radio station a couple of radio 171 00:08:48,889 --> 00:08:45,959 stations this afternoon and then um 172 00:08:52,610 --> 00:08:48,899 headline news has a show I'm doing it 173 00:08:55,790 --> 00:08:52,620 three o'clock okay oh I'll have to watch 174 00:08:56,930 --> 00:08:55,800 if I'm yeah we'll have to stop by though 175 00:08:59,150 --> 00:08:56,940 um 176 00:09:01,430 --> 00:08:59,160 okay Australia what other International 177 00:09:03,170 --> 00:09:01,440 oh my God I mean I mean all over Europe 178 00:09:04,730 --> 00:09:03,180 oh my gosh I'm you know hearing from 179 00:09:06,170 --> 00:09:04,740 people you know Ireland they say you 180 00:09:09,070 --> 00:09:06,180 know we heard about what's happening at 181 00:09:14,930 --> 00:09:11,410 Butch O'Hara 182 00:09:17,210 --> 00:09:14,940 I mean just as well as serious you know 183 00:09:19,070 --> 00:09:17,220 uh researchers at Major U.S universities 184 00:09:21,050 --> 00:09:19,080 who've attempted to do their own 185 00:09:23,509 --> 00:09:21,060 investigations and when they go to the 186 00:09:25,850 --> 00:09:23,519 government to try to get information uh 187 00:09:27,410 --> 00:09:25,860 they get snowwalled so there really is 188 00:09:28,610 --> 00:09:27,420 this Universal feeling that the 189 00:09:38,630 --> 00:09:28,620 government knows a lot more than it's 190 00:09:49,310 --> 00:09:43,090 okay 191 00:09:50,389 --> 00:09:49,320 I am so I think it's so cool that I was 192 00:09:54,710 --> 00:09:50,399 the first one to get to talk to you 193 00:09:56,449 --> 00:09:54,720 about it that's right last Friday yay 194 00:09:59,269 --> 00:09:56,459 okay 195 00:10:01,610 --> 00:09:59,279 the UFO Hair story The Chicago Tribune 196 00:10:04,310 --> 00:10:01,620 exclusively broke on New Year's Day is 197 00:10:06,470 --> 00:10:04,320 garnering attention around the world 198 00:10:08,030 --> 00:10:06,480 joining us now to talk about it once 199 00:10:09,769 --> 00:10:08,040 again is Tribune Transportation writer 200 00:10:12,590 --> 00:10:09,779 John hilkovich who broke the story and 201 00:10:14,570 --> 00:10:12,600 John the response has been well out of 202 00:10:17,690 --> 00:10:14,580 this world hasn't it yes it has been an 203 00:10:19,910 --> 00:10:17,700 astronomical gym every major country it 204 00:10:22,130 --> 00:10:19,920 seems people have written in both those 205 00:10:23,449 --> 00:10:22,140 who claims they've spotted UFOs during 206 00:10:25,070 --> 00:10:23,459 their life as well as serious 207 00:10:27,769 --> 00:10:25,080 researchers I mean just the last two 208 00:10:29,630 --> 00:10:27,779 days this is my email and these are the 209 00:10:30,949 --> 00:10:29,640 serious emails uh you know the ones from 210 00:10:32,990 --> 00:10:30,959 Kooks who said they were brought aboard 211 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:33,000 alien spacecraft I put in a circular 212 00:10:38,150 --> 00:10:36,000 file so it's just a story that has legs 213 00:10:39,590 --> 00:10:38,160 and people are fascinated by the 214 00:10:41,810 --> 00:10:39,600 thoughts and I think there's some belief 215 00:10:43,430 --> 00:10:41,820 that there are Advanced life forms that 216 00:10:45,290 --> 00:10:43,440 are visiting us here on a regular basis 217 00:10:47,210 --> 00:10:45,300 you've been contacted now in the last 218 00:10:48,410 --> 00:10:47,220 few days by several countries but that 219 00:10:50,569 --> 00:10:48,420 also includes serious University 220 00:10:52,130 --> 00:10:50,579 researchers here in the U.S you know I 221 00:10:54,110 --> 00:10:52,140 got to tell you too I got a call from my 222 00:10:56,150 --> 00:10:54,120 dad in California Monday night and he's 223 00:10:58,009 --> 00:10:56,160 like what is up with the O'Hare UFOs 224 00:10:59,569 --> 00:10:58,019 right like where did you see that where 225 00:11:02,269 --> 00:10:59,579 did you read that it was on Fox 226 00:11:04,730 --> 00:11:02,279 Network's crawl at the bottom it's just 227 00:11:07,370 --> 00:11:04,740 amazing how much this is garnering yeah 228 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:07,380 it really is and a worldwide attention 229 00:11:12,050 --> 00:11:10,079 as you say and uh from people who have 230 00:11:14,030 --> 00:11:12,060 observed made observations themselves 231 00:11:17,090 --> 00:11:14,040 including on November 7th the date of 232 00:11:19,009 --> 00:11:17,100 this incident uh additional people both 233 00:11:21,170 --> 00:11:19,019 had O'Hare and outside the airport who 234 00:11:23,509 --> 00:11:21,180 have either seen this gray this shaped 235 00:11:25,790 --> 00:11:23,519 metallic object themselves or they saw 236 00:11:27,650 --> 00:11:25,800 that huge hole in the sky that the 237 00:11:29,030 --> 00:11:27,660 object created when it vanished let's go 238 00:11:31,130 --> 00:11:29,040 over that one more time what did people 239 00:11:33,590 --> 00:11:31,140 see when it all of a sudden vanished 240 00:11:35,509 --> 00:11:33,600 right through the clouds over the United 241 00:11:37,610 --> 00:11:35,519 terminal and then how's the FAA been 242 00:11:39,710 --> 00:11:37,620 reacting uh the past few days too any 243 00:11:41,150 --> 00:11:39,720 any new ground on that okay well the 244 00:11:43,190 --> 00:11:41,160 abject was hovering in a stationary 245 00:11:45,590 --> 00:11:43,200 position about 1500 feet above the 246 00:11:48,050 --> 00:11:45,600 United terminal for some minutes and 247 00:11:51,290 --> 00:11:48,060 then when it left it just burst through 248 00:11:53,870 --> 00:11:51,300 this thick Cloud layer creating a large 249 00:11:56,269 --> 00:11:53,880 open space a blue sky on an otherwise 250 00:11:58,910 --> 00:11:56,279 overcast day it took some minutes for 251 00:12:00,889 --> 00:11:58,920 that opening to close up when the clouds 252 00:12:02,509 --> 00:12:00,899 drifted back together and it's just 253 00:12:04,009 --> 00:12:02,519 extremely unusual according to the 254 00:12:05,389 --> 00:12:04,019 witnesses I mean airplanes just don't 255 00:12:06,889 --> 00:12:05,399 react like this they slice through 256 00:12:08,150 --> 00:12:06,899 clouds and they really don't disturb the 257 00:12:12,530 --> 00:12:08,160 atmosphere that much except for the 258 00:12:14,990 --> 00:12:12,540 wingtips and such the FAA is still you 259 00:12:17,030 --> 00:12:15,000 know pinning this to a uh some kind of 260 00:12:19,190 --> 00:12:17,040 weather phenomenon that some lights from 261 00:12:22,370 --> 00:12:19,200 the airport or the overcast guys somehow 262 00:12:25,250 --> 00:12:22,380 got together and created this image but 263 00:12:26,569 --> 00:12:25,260 uh weather experts astronomy experts 264 00:12:29,389 --> 00:12:26,579 others that I've talked to said that 265 00:12:31,610 --> 00:12:29,399 that's uh that's Bonk uh that's that 266 00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:31,620 explanation just doesn't wash United on 267 00:12:35,810 --> 00:12:34,320 the other hand after first denying that 268 00:12:38,090 --> 00:12:35,820 they got any reports from employees 269 00:12:39,829 --> 00:12:38,100 about this sighting is now saying yes 270 00:12:41,630 --> 00:12:39,839 indeed their employees did approach them 271 00:12:43,670 --> 00:12:41,640 immediately because of concerns about 272 00:12:45,590 --> 00:12:43,680 safety and to reiterate John the 273 00:12:47,629 --> 00:12:45,600 witnesses who originally came to you are 274 00:12:49,550 --> 00:12:47,639 all season professional credible 275 00:12:52,069 --> 00:12:49,560 professionals like pilots who saw this 276 00:12:55,850 --> 00:12:52,079 Pilots they're senior managers their 277 00:12:58,370 --> 00:12:55,860 mechanics and others so uh you know 278 00:12:59,629 --> 00:12:58,380 there they are very truthful about what 279 00:13:02,090 --> 00:12:59,639 they're saying and we're trying to 280 00:13:03,949 --> 00:13:02,100 locate photographs if they do exist of 281 00:13:05,329 --> 00:13:03,959 this incident and John we know you have 282 00:13:07,009 --> 00:13:05,339 plenty of other interviews to do today 283 00:13:08,569 --> 00:13:07,019 with other countries so we'll let you go 284 00:13:14,030 --> 00:13:08,579 and we'll keep our eyes to the sky 285 00:13:17,930 --> 00:13:16,430 this is just incredible 286 00:13:20,329 --> 00:13:17,940 isn't it amazing what what really 287 00:13:22,370 --> 00:13:20,339 Garners people's yeah for various 288 00:13:25,310 --> 00:13:22,380 reasons I suppose you know 289 00:13:26,329 --> 00:13:25,320 how cool yeah no it's I can't wait to 290 00:13:31,310 --> 00:13:26,339 see 291 00:13:35,329 --> 00:13:31,320 yeah I'm just amazed I'm still getting 292 00:13:38,690 --> 00:13:35,339 requests for interviews because yeah 293 00:13:42,230 --> 00:13:38,700 cool thanks John thanks 294 00:13:44,990 --> 00:13:42,240 well the most credible part is that uh 295 00:13:48,889 --> 00:13:45,000 Pilots numerous Pilots including the two 296 00:13:51,949 --> 00:13:48,899 pilots of uh at C-17 opened their 297 00:13:54,710 --> 00:13:51,959 windows and cleared out the cockpit and 298 00:13:55,970 --> 00:13:54,720 both saw in great detail uh you know 299 00:13:59,269 --> 00:13:55,980 what what they 300 00:14:00,590 --> 00:13:59,279 you know perceived to be a UFO and they 301 00:14:02,090 --> 00:14:00,600 said it couldn't have been a light show 302 00:14:05,449 --> 00:14:02,100 it could not have been a weather 303 00:14:08,650 --> 00:14:05,459 phenomenon is the FAA later said it must 304 00:14:12,290 --> 00:14:08,660 have been and uh I have documentation 305 00:14:14,150 --> 00:14:12,300 between United Airlines managers to 306 00:14:16,970 --> 00:14:14,160 their bosses saying we've received 307 00:14:19,009 --> 00:14:16,980 reports of this from our employees what 308 00:14:21,530 --> 00:14:19,019 do we do some of these employees were 309 00:14:24,050 --> 00:14:21,540 brought in interviewed even asked to 310 00:14:26,329 --> 00:14:24,060 draw sketches of what they saw so what's 311 00:14:29,569 --> 00:14:26,339 equally important is not just that the 312 00:14:32,030 --> 00:14:29,579 the caliber of these Witnesses but the 313 00:14:35,329 --> 00:14:32,040 Tribune's ability to document 314 00:14:37,790 --> 00:14:35,339 for better no better word a cover-up by 315 00:14:40,790 --> 00:14:37,800 both United Airlines and the FAA because 316 00:14:43,069 --> 00:14:40,800 when I went to both parties they flatly 317 00:14:44,870 --> 00:14:43,079 said they knew nothing about this that 318 00:14:46,730 --> 00:14:44,880 my call was the first information they 319 00:14:48,710 --> 00:14:46,740 received and in fact I have 320 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:48,720 correspondence that shows that they 321 00:14:53,269 --> 00:14:51,360 clearly were told about it and uh 322 00:14:58,910 --> 00:14:53,279 communicated internally and externally 323 00:15:04,009 --> 00:15:01,490 well it was a Holiness theory is that no 324 00:15:06,230 --> 00:15:04,019 air traffic controller saw it that 325 00:15:08,750 --> 00:15:06,240 nobody with a camera phone at O'Hare 326 00:15:12,410 --> 00:15:08,760 happened to stamp a picture of this